About Kim and Clark Kays

Kim & Clark Kays quit their jobs for an uncertain trip around the world. Originally from St. Louis, they relocated to Chicago after getting married in 2005. After working for five years in middle school and the Fortune 500, they realized there was more to life than the 9-to-5, so made the crazy decision to exchange money for time rather than the other way around.
Their hobbies include fighting over writing styles and searching for gelato. They think food, beer, architecture, and photography are some of the best things about travel—especially when combined. Their travel blog, To Uncertainty and Beyond, includes long-term travel tips as well as humorous anecdotes from their journey through Europe and Asia. They invite you to experience their journey and learn from their adventures and mistakes.
Recent Posts by Kim and Clark Kays
A Stunning Look: Our Top 10 Photos from 2010
December 31, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
Happy New Year, everyone! We thought it would be fun to take a look back at our top ten photos of 2010. Enjoy!
1. Berwang, Austria
This is by far our most popular photo and one of our favorite memories. We were driving around the Tyrol Alps in our little rental car and stopped on the side of the road to hike up the rolling hills to get this great shot. The grass was so wet from dew, and cows were grazing at the bottom of the hill. A few minutes later, we heard a traveling brass band putting on a concert in the village of Berwang, about 200 yards away.
2. Balloons – Cappadocia, Turkey
Who doesn’t love a hot-air balloon photo? We had a great time on our early morning ride in Cappadocia. We got up early to take photos only, but we decided we just couldn’t pass up on this popular Cappadocian activity. The price is pretty high, but it was well worth it. Definitely one of my favorite HDR’s.
3. Auschwitz, Poland
Clark’s dad thinks this our most haunting photo. This train car is sitting on the original tracks inside the Auschwitz-Birkenau concentration camp. You can see the main building and gates in the distance. This camp saw the deaths of 960,000 Jews, 75,000 Poles, and 19,000 Roma.
4. Plitvice Lakes, Croatia
The Plitvice Lakes are often overlooked by tourists in Croatia who usually head straight for the coast. This national park in the mountainous region of Lika was one of our favorite sights. The water is amazingly clear and there are countless winding paths with some great views! We had to semi-hang off a cliff for this shot.
5. Süleymaniye and Rustem Pasa Mosques – Istanbul, Turkey
We arrived at the Galata bridge in Istanbul just in time for a great sunset. This is one of our favorite mosque photos. I love the clouds, birds, and glow of the sun.
6. Berwang, Austria
Here’s another photo taken right after shot #1 from the little town of Berwang. In this sleepy little ski village, we enjoyed wandering around the hills and taking in the views. Besides the traveling band, I think we were the only guests in town.
7. Chicago, USA
We took this photo a few weeks before leaving for our trip. The best place to view the sunset in Chicago is from the lawn near Adler Planetarium. Its a long walk to the end of the little peninsula, but worth it, especially on an evening like this!
8. Blue Mosque – Istanbul, Turkey
We love our wide-angle lens. This photo of the Blue Mosque in Istanbul really captures the immense size of the domes.
9. Sarajevo, Bosnia
This was one of my shots. While Clark was in Zagreb attending to the broken MacBook, I was exploring Sarajevo and getting some great photos. Bosnia was a very interesting place, and one of our favorite countries. You’d think the war just ended after visiting. A friend and I hiked to a high on hill surrounding he city right before sunset. You can see the collapsed rooftops and remaining war damage if you look closely.
10. The Treasury – Petra, Jordan
Petra was hands down our favorite “sight-seeing” destination. Hiking around in this ancient intricately-carved city is high on our list of travel recommendations. This photo of the treasury was taken around 9:00 a.m. right when the sun peaks from behind the rocks.
Posted from: Chicago, IL, USA
Koh Lipe to Bangkok in Only 27 Hours
December 31, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
Malaysian and Thai islands are beautiful. The sand is bright and clean, the water is clear, and the sunsets are stunning. Who wouldn’t like relaxing on the beach with a cold Chang after an hour-long massage?
However relaxing they may be, their is a significant tourist factor. The accommodations are cheap on Koh Lipe ($20/night for non-air con room), but it is nearly impossible to find local-priced street food. Everything was greatly marked up for tourists. We decided it was time to move on. We popped in to one of the many travel agencies and charted our course from Koh Lipe straight up to Bangkok.
The plan: 9:00 AM speedboat to Pakbara, 11:30 AM shuttle bus to Trang, 5:20 PM overnight train to Bangkok. It was a long day, but it sounded simple enough.
Here’s how our 27-hour journey panned out:
- 8:00 AM: Drag ourselves out of bed for our march to the beach in flip-flops.
- 9:00 AM: Wade into the water, toss our bags precariously on a long-tail boat, and climb in.
- 9:15 AM: Climb from the long-tail boat onto a floating pier, rip my skirt in half trying to hoist myself up, and then climb down into the speed boat.
- 9:40 AM: After enough passengers have filled the speed boat, set out on the fast, bouncy ride. Running about 40 minutes late.
- 11:50 AM: Something appears to be wrong. The engines sputter and the boat comes to a stop while the crew looks on anxiously. The captain keeps trying to turn the engines over to no avail. Not thrilled about this. Should we get out and push?

- 11:00 AM: A second boat pulls up with extra fuel. Apparently we ran out of gas.
- 11:10 AM: Fail to get the boat running.
- 11:20 AM: A third boat pulls up to fuel us up again. Really? You didn’t fill it up enough the first time?
- 11:30 AM: Success! A few engines start up and we slowly putter toward Pakbara port.
- 11:35 AM: We slow down enough to make a jump for the pier. No railing, ladder, or bridge for us. This is quite a fete for me with my little legs and oversize pack.
- 11:40 AM: Search for a man holding a sign with our names that is supposed to meet us and take us to the shuttle bus. No man to be found.
- 11:45 AM: Wander around holding up our ticket asking strangers for the bus to Trang. Finally stumble upon someone who recognizes our ticket.
- 11:50 AM: Push down some decent Pad Thai as our bus was not leaving anytime soon.
- 12:30 PM: Hand our bags up to the driver who is piling them high on the roof and strapping them down with bungees.
- 12:50 PM: Depart Pakbara for Trang and grow increasingly anxious about our bags. Running about two hours late now.
- 1:00 PM: Driver pulls over to check the luggage after nervously looking in the mirror after every bump and turn. For some reason, we left our MacBook in my backpack, so we get out and ask the driver to hand us my bag so we can remedy the situation.
- 1:45 PM: Pull into Trang, grab a light dinner, and use some super-fast WiFi.
- 5:00 PM: Grab our 2nd class A/C seats (two lower bunks).
- 5:20 PM: Train pulls out right on time for a change.

- 9:00 PM: The conductor converts seats to beds and pulls down the top bunks…for everyone except us. He refuses to convert our seats until the very end. I think he had a thing against Westerners.
- 10:00 PM: Close our curtains and fall asleep in the surprisingly comfortable and clean bunks. Besides a few bugs crawling by our heads, it was a very nice ride.
- 1:15 AM: Wake up to the sound of inconsiderate backpackers boarding the train and climbing into the bunks above us. One sticks his backpack almost inside Clark’s bed and knocks his curtain down repeatedly.
- 6:00 AM: Wake up to the sound of women walking up and down the aisles selling coffee and little fried things for breakfast. Loudly.
- 9:00 AM: Arrive in Bangkok relatively on time, grab a tuk-tuk and overpay for a ride to Siam Square.
- 9:20 AM: Wander around in the heat trying to find the hostel.
- 10:00 AM: Sit at Starbucks and enjoy a frosty drink while Clark continues to try to find the hostel.
- 10:30 AM: Finally find the hostel and try to begin the check-in process. The hostel employee tells us and several other people to wait five minutes.
- 10:35 AM: Try to check-in again and are told to wait five more minutes
- 10:50 AM: Try again. We are asked what room number we are in repeatedly before getting across that we don’t have a room yet, we are checking in. Yet again, we’re told to wait five minutes.
- 11:15 AM: Explain our two Hostelworld reservations to the extremely out of it employee and try to check-in again.
- 12:00 PM: After a confusing thirty minutes, we’ve paid at least. Told to come back at 2 p.m. to get our room key
- 2:30 PM: Come back to check-in. We are asked for our room number. How could I know my room number if I haven’t checked-in yet? They were very confused. Finally got a key and rested before heading to MBK for a little shopping.
Even with the few set-backs we weren’t too exhausted by the time we got to our room. We actually slept better on this train than any of the European sleepers cars we took. For those planning to island hop in Malaysia and Thailand, here’s some advice: Don’t be in a hurry, accept that you will get wet, and try to keep your cool.
There are lots of little frustrations that start to build up on long trips. The screaming kid on the train, the taxi driver who refuses to use the meter, or the hostel employee who has no clue how to check someone in really start to get to you after awhile.
Now we’re settled in Bangkok and quite enjoy being back in a city. Bangkok has just the right amount of chaos and noise. We’ve been shopping a lot and eating some great street food. We’ve even enjoyed a few Western luxuries like pizza, donuts, and Häagen-Dazs.
I’m particularly fond of the hot pink taxis!
Posted from: Suriya Wong, Bang Rak, Bangkok 10500, Thailand
5 Ways to Travel Like a Human
December 30, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
All too often, we’ve meet travelers that look like they are straight from the set of 28 Days Later– dirty, stinky, sleep-deprived, emaciated, and hung over. They drag their feet from castle to cathedral groaning and drooling all the way. How can anyone travel like that and actually get something out of it (besides psoriasis of the liver)?
You travel to see the destination, and you can’t expect to have a productive day in Istanbul if you ignore basic hygiene. It may sound like common sense, but you would be surprised.
Here are a few tips to keep you on the path of humanity as you travel:
1. Keep It Clean

If you live in a major city, you know what it’s like to be sitting on the metro next to a backpacker that looks like he and his bag have been thrown from a moving car. Come on. Unless you are camping or hiking, there really is no excuse to skip bathing. There are people around you that have nostrils!
I am aware that people travel on a very tight budget. However, even the most basic hostel has a shower. You can find free soap and shampoo most of the time. We went for several weeks just using leftovers in hostel bathrooms. Do yourself and everyone around you a favor and take 10 minutes to bathe each day. Even if the water is lukewarm and you are afraid to touch the slimy walls, it is still better than nothing.
2. Don’t Over Do It

Another typical state of backpackers is the perpetual hangover. It’s fun to party all night with your new hostel pals, but is it worth missing an entire day of sights in Paris? Maybe I’m just getting too old, but I don’t want to be squinting through sunglasses and popping aspirin all day at the Louvre.
Go out and have fun, but remember to take it easy.
3. Get Your Beauty Rest

This goes right along with the above tip. You need sleep to stay healthy. How can you expect to have a productive day in Salzburg if you were out all night? If you had a fun night, just sleep in. It’s okay! Don’t drag yourself out of bed at eight in the morning for the Sound of Music tour. It’s lame, anyway.
4. Just Eat It!

We once ran into a guy who only ate a piece of bread each morning and then a small snack in the evening. We shared a room with Skelator, and he would tell us that he was dizzy and seeing spots by dinner time. Is the cost savings really worth starving yourself? Also, food is one of the best parts of travel, so just eat something!
You don’t have to eat out for every meal. Go to the grocery store or market and buy some bread, fruit, and cheese. That’s always pretty cheap, or you can usually make some kind of meal out of the free food section in the hostel kitchen. Eat a couple of times a day and you’ll feel much better. We usually eat a moderate sized lunch around 1:00 and a light snack for dinner (with an ice cream stop in there somewhere). Avoid the tourist traps. The places where the locals eat are usually affordable– plus, you will learn a few things about local cuisine.
5. Take Your Meds

Another habit of backpackers that pushes them closer to Zombieland is refusing to buy medicine. If you’re sick, you need to take the time and effort to get well.
I’m not talking about aspirin or Pepto-Bismol. We’ve run into travelers who have infected cuts, rashes, or horrible tooth pain who are simply putting up with it. European pharmacies are happy to help you diagnose your problem and find a medication to ease your pain. A trip to the pharmacy won’t bust your budget. Even when I burned my leg on an island in Southeast Asia, I was able to find the necessary bandages to keep myself healthy.
Learning About Thai Massage
December 20, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
You won’t get far in Thailand without hearing “Thai Massaaaaa?” whispered at you from every other shop. We sampled a few different massages during our time in Thailand from a basic foot massage to a full, traditional Thai massage. These are a very different variety from the intense turn-your-muscles-to-jelly-type massages that are popular in spas in the U.S.
A Thai massage, or nuat phaen boran, is more of a stretching, invigorating process that focuses on pressure-points. The Thai name translates to “ancient pressure massage” or “traditional pressure massage”. The modern Thai Massage is derived from ancient health practices and focuses on the major sen (or energy lines) of the body. Advocates of this type of massage profess that it improves circulation, increases alertness, relaxes the muscles, and flushes toxins from the body. I just know they feel great.
Sometimes travelers get a bit intimidated at the prospect of pointy knees and elbows being shoved into the soft and sensitive parts of their bodies. Don’t be. Your massage shouldn’t be overly painful, just intense, and you’ll feel great afterward. They’re also really cheap (about $7 to $10 an hour). If it is your first one, don’t be afraid to let the masseuse know. She’ll help you out by telling you when and were to shift and move. She’ll probably even ask you if a certain amount of pressure is o.k. or too much.
I should also mention that there are different kinds of “Thai massages”. If you are looking for a relaxing, non-sexual massage, look for the shops where the women are dressed in normal clothes like a polo shirt and yoga pants. Not every masseuse will be extremely well-trained, but even the amateurs do an all right job. The heavily made-up, younger girls dressed in heels and mini skirts are offering a different kind of massage entirely. That variety will cost more than $7.
A typical Thai massage will take place on the floor on a soft mat. You will either be in a private room, or one large common room with curtains separating customers. On the islands you’ll most likely be in an open air hut. Your feet will be washed and then you’ll be given some form of baggy pajama-like outfit to put on before you are led to your mat. This is so you feel less exposed when your limbs are being twisted in odd ways. A towel will also be layed over you to keep your body warm.
Most massages start with the massagee on his or her back. The woman will squeeze your feet, twist and turn your ankles, pull and pop your toes, and even punch the bottom of your feet. She’ll apply pressure on your pelvis, legs, knees, and ankles, gently, but firmly pushing them into the soft mat. Your legs and calves will be kneaded and squeezed. If you are ticklish, this part can be a bit intense. After a few minutes you’ll get over the sensitivity.
You’ll then have your legs stretched in yoga-like poses. She’ll push your knees to your chest and down to the mat in ways you didn’t know your body could contort. The masseuse will sometimes use her feet to push your body one way while she pulls your limbs another. All of this happens very slowly and shouldn’t be painful, just a little uncomfortable, like any deep stretch. Make sure to keep your muscles as relaxed as possible or your massage will be more painful than it should be.
Your arms and hands are next. Your hands are treated in much the same way as your feet, twisting your wrists, popping your fingers, squeezing your hands and arms. You’ll then turn over and she’ll starting putting most of her weight onto your back and butt. I usually just got knees, but Clark’s masseuse walked on his back. I really loved it when she sat on my back and pulled my arms behind me, lifting me off the mat, and stretching me backward.
Next, she’ll ask you to sit up, cross legged while she uses her arms and elbows to massage your shoulders and back, again putting a lot of her weight on you. You’ll hear your muscles and bones popping and crackling. My favorite part of the massage is the head and neck. They know exactly the right spots to apply pressure to the back of your head and temples that feels great and relieves any sinus pressure you may have. The massage will end with some more pulling and stretching of your arms and back. She’ll probably put your hands behind your head and pull your body around to pop your back as well.
After you get dressed and head out to the lobby you’ll be served tea. You won’t feel hazy and sleepy but alert and relaxed. Sit and enjoy your tea, chat with other customers or your masseuse if she speaks enough English. A typical tip for your masseuse is 50-70 baht. Go ahead and tip 100 if you want to be generous since the women work mostly on tips. Tipping $3 won’t break you, but it might just make her day!
Posted from: Suriya Wong, Bang Rak, Bangkok 10500, Thailand
Krispy Kreme: A Thai Delicacy
December 20, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays

You can’t go wrong with fried carbohydrates covered with carbohydrate glaze. We discovered this local bakery while shopping one afternoon. I can only assume it is some kind of local delicacy. After taking this photo, I had to understand the reason for these insane crowds.
Krispy Kreme has fallen on hard times in the States and other Western countries, but the donut biz-nass is booming over here! They are selling like hot cakes.
Bangkok’s Siam Square is home to the first Krispy Kreme franchise in Thailand. On the ground level of the Paragon shopping mall you’ll see a bright, shiny store with a line that twists and turns out the door and around the block. Pre-diabetic Thais wait for as long as three hours to max out their 2.5 dozen per person limit. You see people carrying big plastic bags filled with Krispy Kreme boxes everywhere, even posing for photos with their boxes. The funny thing is that I’ve never seen someone actually eating a Krispy Kreme. Is this just some sort of bizarre fashion trend? Like purse dogs? Are you not cool unless you have 30 donuts on you at all times?
We’ve walked by several times now, and there are always about 100 people in line. You can even get them on the black market. Just like Omega watches and Armani suits sold on every corner, I’m skeptical of the authenticity. I asked one guy, “Are these actual Krispy Kremes or imitation Kripsy Kremes? I’m not paying 200 baht for knockoff donuts.”
The last thing I want is a box of Mr. Donut or, heaven forbid, Dunkin’ Donuts.
Time for High Tea in Malaysia
December 12, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
The Cameron Highlands is 712 km of beautiful rolling hills and green lush vegetation about 1500 meters above sea level in the Titiwangsa Range. We spent a relaxing day visiting the many agricultural attractions of this peaceful hill station.
You can’t go far in the Highlands without seeing strawberries. The climate and hydroponic growing method allow the strawberries to be harvested year-round. They grow the berries above ground, hanging from little packs of coconut shells and nutrients. There are countless farms for you to explore, pick your own strawberries, and enjoy some fresh treats. We particularly enjoyed the fresh strawberries with cream, strawberry shakes, and dried strawberries.
Butterflies and insects abound in the tropical climate and vegetation of the highlands. We visited a little butterfly farm that also boasted a collection of extremely large beetles, snakes, spiders, scorpions, and other huge, frightening insects that I wouldn’t want to come across in the jungle. The butterflies were very nice though!
The most striking sight in the highlands are the never-ending bright green rows of tea that grow up and down the hills. We visited Malaysia’s leading tea grower, BOH Plantations. The company produces 4 million kilograms of tea each year (that’s about 6 cups a day). We watched the workers in the fields collect the leaves, toured the factory, and enjoyed a cup of tea and scone overlooking the expansive farmland from a great vantage point.
Our next stop found us wandering through rows and rows of roses, carnations, chrysanthemum, dalia, geranium, orchid, and other tropical flowers. The nurseries in the Cameron Highlands are Malaysia’s largest fresh flower producers.
We ended our day at the fifth largest Buddhist temple in Malaysia, Sam Poh. It was the perfect tranquil ending to a lazy, tea-tasting, food-eating day.
The Cameron Highlands has a lot to offer, especially if you are in need of relaxation. There are some great local food stalls with friendly people, and loads of farms, plantations, jungle treks, produce markets, hostels, guesthouses, and hotels to make this a great backpacker destination!
Posted from: George Town, Penang, Malaysia
Thanksgiving on a Banana Leaf
November 27, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
It’s hard remembering holidays on the road, especially when you aren’t immersed in the preparation, advertising, and all of the hullabaloo surrounding them. When traveling, American holidays become just another day. Sure, you’ll see a hint here or there, or share a knowing smile and wave with a fellow Yankee traveler, but other than that, it is business as usual.
On the 4th of July, we grabbed a couple of Whoppers in Seville. For Halloween in Jordan, Clark dressed up like a Bedouin. These holidays were after thoughts. Thanksgiving was a little different. All of our American friends on Facebook and Twitter were busy posting pumpkin pie recipes and swapping tips on how best to brine their turkeys. Even being 9,000 miles away, Thanksgiving couldn’t go unnoticed. We wished our FB friends an early Happy Thanksgiving and headed out for our own little feast.
Our celebration was definitely non-traditional. We could have tried to seek out fellow Americans and scrounge around Penang to find a quasi-traditional meal. Instead, we went the local route. We headed out for a traditional South Indian banana leaf meal that is very popular in Malaysia. We left with bellies just as full and even ordered some dishes that beared some resemblance to traditional Thanksgiving fare.
Steamed white rice and vegetarian side dishes were served on a big banana leaf. One was potato-based, another contained spiced green beans, the third was a sweet and spicy tofu, and the last was a small dahl (lentil) curry. The main dishes were a fish, chicken, and vegetarian curry. Papadum, a crispy cracker like appetizer, was also served on the side.
To add a little Thanksgivingness to our dinner, we ordered a spicy pumpkin masala and deep fried bitter squash. Both were quite good. The pumpkin especially added a festive element. We washed all of this down with a mango lasso and Tiger beer. Our South Indian Thanksgiving meal cost about $15. Not bad, and a lot cheaper than a 20 pound turkey.
We ventured into the food stalls for dessert and were lucky enough to find a place selling ais kacang. The literal translation for this dish is “ice beans”. This sounded too delicious to pass up. It consisted of shaved ice, red beans, sweet corn, grass jelly, gelatinous agar-agar, condensed milk, and some sort of red, fruity syrup. Luckily, this blob was topped with a scoop of vanilla ice cream.
We managed to overcome the appearance and take a few timid bites. It actually isn’t as bad as it sounds or looks, but I wouldn’t say it was good either. The red beans and corn were sweet and almost complimentary to the milk and ice cream. The gelatinous texture of the grass jelly and agar-agar left much to be desired. We ended up digging out the ice cream and leaving most of the beans and corn floating in the icy milk. Ben & Jerry’s definitely won’t be adding “King Kong Kacang” to their menu any time soon.
We finished the evening relaxing at Starbucks (kind of lame) drinking cappuccinos and listening to Christmas music. The air conditioning was cold enough that I could almost believe I was back in Chicago after a day of Christmas shopping on State Street. That is until I stepped out into the 85 degree night and the wave of 90% humidity hit me.
For this Thanksgiving, I’m thankful for one thing most of all– air conditioning.
Posted from: Langkawi, Kedah, Malaysia
India to Singapore in One Convenient Video
November 26, 2010 by Kim and Clark Kays
Things to do in Singapore: Eat. Shop. Get fined.
That’s about it.
We knew Singapore was going to be the polar opposite of India. To be honest, it felt pretty nice, and it is a lot like home…except cleaner, shinier, hotter (outside), and much colder (inside). I don’t know what the deal is with these guys, but they keep the A/C on full blast at all times.
Everything in Singapore is modern and bright: huge skyscrapers, flashy casinos, colorful restaurants, and massive shopping malls. The brand new Marina Bay Sands Hotel & Casino is an amazing scam. Locals are charged S$100 just to walk in the door of this place! You don’t get that back in chips either. It costs 77USD just for the privilege to play S$25 minimum, 5-deck blackjack and ultra-lame electronic craps. You don’t even get to roll the dice. Lucky for us, foreigners on tourist visas are admitted free of charge.
We discovered one major similarity, however. As we exited the Little India metro station, Kim joked that we would find a bovine paradise of crumbling buildings, trash clogged streets, and completely ignored queues. She was right all counts except the cows, but I think we could have even found a cow or two if we had tried harder. Little India is shockingly similar to Big India, except prices were quadrupled and we could drink the water here. We ate some great thali for dinner, and it made us wish our train problems hadn’t kept us from Mumbai. If you want all the perks of India without the inconvenience of actually being in India, you’ll love this neighborhood.
Many people find Singapore sterile and boring. I can’t argue with that assessment, but sometimes a little boredom and sterility is just what you need after six months of traveling.
We threw together a video so you can share in our reverse culture shock:
Which do you prefer? Cast your vote by commenting below.
Posted from: Tanah Rata, Pahang, Malaysia









































